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Duality is not an illusion.
Nonduality is not the Truth.
Reality is one thing, viewed two ways.
Nonduality is not the Truth.
Reality is one thing, viewed two ways.
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Re: Reality
Fri, June 12, 2009 - 6:21 PMSome say reality is "just" vibration.
Slow vibration is matter.
Fast vibration is energy.
If that is so, what is it that is vibrating?
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Re: Reality
Sat, June 20, 2009 - 2:27 PM<what thing is reality? >
That depends on how you look at it.
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Fri, June 12, 2009 - 10:05 AMPerhaps reality is rendered by the brain. According to Thomas Metzinger in "The Ego Tunnel," 'reality' is virtual. In other words, we live inside a "Matrix" of our brain's creation and design. This isn't to say there's no reality apart from the brain, but there is no way to experience a reality without a brain. -
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Fri, June 12, 2009 - 6:27 PM<This isn't to say there's no reality apart from the brain, but there is no way to experience a reality without a brain.>
So, reality and experience are two different things?
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Fri, June 12, 2009 - 9:13 PM> How would anyone ever know that?
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By understanding the neurology of world modeling. -
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Sat, June 13, 2009 - 5:55 AM<By understanding the neurology of world modeling.>
That's like saying you "know" that TV shows are "reality" because you understand the circuit boards in your TV set. -
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Sat, June 13, 2009 - 9:12 AMI didn't say the model was reality, I said all we can know of reality is the model.
It's more like saying we can never touch reality because all we have to know it are our sensations. -
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Sat, June 13, 2009 - 9:50 AM<we can never touch reality>
Then what makes you think reality is anything beyond your sensations? -
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Sat, June 13, 2009 - 8:22 PMWell, cognitive scientists say our sensory system filters a lot out. One can assume then that there's more than meets our eye. But I see your point. One can define what is real by what we know, rather than what we know and what we believe we are missing. -
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Sat, June 13, 2009 - 10:45 PM<Well, cognitive scientists say>
What other people say (in this case, "cognitive scientists") may be part of your reality, but what they describe may not be.
You can look at your sensations as the substance of your subjective experience.
Or you can look through them to see an objective external world of space and time.
Reality is one thing, viewed two ways. -
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Re: Reality
Sun, June 14, 2009 - 6:36 AM<Viewed billions of ways.>
...or so we imagine, when viewing one way.
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Re: Reality
Tue, June 16, 2009 - 11:59 PMSeems to me that "reality" is an illusion, a butterfly that can't be caught. What we *think* is real is merely our perception of the data input our brain is receiving. So much of what we perceive is filtered by factors such as point of focus, past experiences filling in data gaps, distractions, etc, etc, etc...
When taking into consideration that a mere shift in focus can completely change one's perception of what is real, it then becomes clear that it is impossible to define reality at all. Poof! An illusion!
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Re: Reality
Wed, June 17, 2009 - 5:30 AMIf nothing is real, then nothing is an illusion, either...
What does that leave you? -
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Re: Reality
Fri, July 17, 2009 - 9:11 AM<What does that leave you?>
it leaves you with *being*
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